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A half-hour of thoughtful and irreverent dialogue with Hollywood's top deal-makers, filmmakers, moguls, artists and agents, The Business will clue you in on who's making pop culture pop and what's keeping Hollywood's Blackberries juicy.

A half-hour of thoughtful and irreverent dialogue with Hollywood's top deal-makers, filmmakers, moguls, artists and agents, The Business will clue you in on who's making pop culture pop and what's keeping Hollywood's Blackberries juicy.
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A half-hour of thoughtful and irreverent dialogue with Hollywood's top deal-makers, filmmakers, moguls, artists and agents, The Business will clue you in on who's making pop culture pop and what's keeping Hollywood's Blackberries juicy.






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Revisiting comedian Kathy Griffin, following her film premiere at SXSW

When comedian Kathy Griffin posed for a photo holding what appeared to be the bloody head of Donald Trump, she became a pariah overnight. So she did the only thing she could do: turned her story into an act, and took it around the world. This week, we revisit our conversation with Griffin, whose movie version of her stand-up special just premiered at SXSW.


Battle brewing between the Writers Guild and talent agencies; 'Apollo 11'

A potentially epic confrontation is on the horizon, pitting the Writers Guild against the talent agencies. And, after Todd Douglas Miller made a short film about Apollo 17, he figured he was done with outer space. Then he got an email from an employee at the National Archives who had found some old reels labeled: Apollo 11. Miller talks about the never-before-seen footage that led to his new movie, ‘Apollo 11.’


Director Dan Reed on his unflinching documentary ‘Leaving Neverland’

Dan Reed’s documentary ‘Leaving Neverland’ features interviews with two men who say Michael Jackson sexually abused them for years when they were children. Initially conceived as just one hour of television, Reed soon realized it’d have to be longer. He talks about making this unflinching four-hour film and how, despite a lawsuit from the Jackson estate, HBO is standing behind ‘Leaving Neverland.’


Bonus post-Oscars banter

Without a host, the night moved right along but then, it came to best picture. How did it come to be that Julia Roberts was announcing 'Green Book' as the winner when the film had endured scandal after scandal? Scott Feinberg explains what makes the ballot for best picture different from all the other categories. And the other takeaway? The Academy is not the same as "film Twitter"--far from it, in this case!


Gloria Calderón Kellett chronicles pilot season, one tweet at a time

With ‘One Day at a Time’ having just dropped its third season on Netflix, showrunner Gloria Calderón Kellett hoped to launch another series this year. Knowing that pilot season is not for the faint of heart, Calderón Kellett decided to share different aspects of the experience via tweets. She gives us a dramatic reading of some of her recent threads. Plus, a bonus Oscars banter!


Oscar-nominated cinematographer Caleb Deschanel looks back on a legendary career

And he gives us a glimpse of the future too! Deschanel is just back from shooting Disney’s new ‘Lion King’ in London. He’s now Oscar-nominated for his work on ‘Never Look Away.’ That makes his sixth nomination--his previous five were for ‘The Right Stuff,’ ‘The Natural,’ ‘Fly Away Home,’ ‘The Patriot’ and ‘The Passion of the Christ.’ He talks about his long career, plus his penchant for working with animals.


Filmmaker dream hampton on making Lifetime's ‘Surviving R. Kelly’

When ‘Surviving R. Kelly’ showrunner dream hampton was conducting interviews with women who had been in the thrall of the infamous singer-songwriter, she had to choose her words. She tells us about having difficult conversations with survivors while lawyers listened to every question and about other challenges of making the docuseries, plus the recognition and blowback she’s experienced since.


Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck on ‘Never Look Away’

For his new film ‘Never Look Away,’ director Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck spent weeks cozying up to German artist Gerhard Richter, whose remarkable life story inspired the movie. Richter seemed OK with the script, but then trashed the film based just on the trailer. Von Donnersmarck is taking it in stride--Richter may not like ‘Never Look Away,’ but the Academy nominated it for best foreign language film.


Director Lee Chang-dong & actor Steven Yeun on ‘Burning’

When actor Steven Yeun, best known for AMC’s ‘The Walking Dead, was asked on a Korean talk show which filmmaker from that country he’d most like to work with, he knew his answer right away: the author-turned-director Lee Chang-dong. He didn’t expect it’d ever happen, but before he knew it, he was meeting the filmmaker in Korea. Lee Chang-dong and Steven Yeun tell us about their experiences making ‘Burning.’


Nadine Labaki on her Oscar-shortlisted film ‘Capernaum’

Lebanese filmmaker Nadine Labaki cast street children as the stars of ‘Capernaum,’ her gritty tale of 12-year-old Zain, who runs away from home and ultimately sues his parents for condemning him to a life of poverty and desperation. Labaki tells us what drew her to the story and describes the scramble to get her cast members the paperwork they needed to go to Cannes, where ‘Capernaum’ won the Jury Prize.


Spike Lee and John David Washington on ‘BlacKkKlansman’

Could this be the year the Academy finally nominates Spike Lee for Best Director or Best Picture? ‘BlacKkKlansman’ is looking like a contender. The film is based on the true story of black police officer Ron Stallworth, who went undercover with the KKK in the 1970s. Lee and his ‘BlacKkKlansman’ star John David Washington join us to talk about the film and get a little philosophical along the way.


Revisiting some favorite moments from the past year

With 2018 in the history books, we’re revisiting some of our favorite moments from last year’s interviews. Stories of big breaks, trails blazed and getting back in the actual saddle on a literal horse. We have ‘Blockers’ director Kay Cannon, rodeo star turned actor Brady Jandreau, ‘Dear White People’ creator Justin Simien, ‘Vida’ showrunner Tanya Saracho and ‘Crazy Rich Asians’ director Jon M. Chu.


Paweł Pawlikowski on 'Cold War,' a personal, Polish love story

Four years ago, director Paweł Pawlikowski won the best foreign language Oscar for his film 'Ida.' His new movie is 'Cold War,' a black-and-white period film based on the tumultuous marriage of his Polish parents that has him in the awards race again. He tells us about making 'Cold War,' getting encouragement from his friend Alfonso Cuaron, and gives the backstory of that memorable Oscar speech from 2015.


Mega banter year-in-review: 2018 edition

The Mouse swallows the Fox, Netflix keeps turning into the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man, but are its rivals figuring out how to cross the streams? Old tweets cause new trouble, and a king of Hollywood falls from his throne. Banter buddies Matt Belloni and Lesley Goldberg join Kim Masters for a 2018 mega banter.


Peter Jackson gives WWI footage new life in 'They Shall Not Grow Old'

Peter Jackson generated whole worlds for his ‘Lord of the Rings’ and ‘Hobbit’ trilogies. His latest project? A documentary that magically brings to life old footage shot on the front lines of World War One. The restoration of 100-year-old film was no easy feat. He tells us about his newest film, ‘They Shall Not Grow Old.’


Kristoffer Polaha on Hallmark movies; Netflix's Lisa Nishimura

In 2015, actor Kristoffer Polaha booked what he thought would be a one-off gig in a Hallmark TV movie. Now, he’s got 5 Hallmark films under his belt. He tells us how he and the Hallmark Channel fell in love. Then, KCRW's Matt Holzman sits down with Netflix's Lisa Nishimura. The head of original documentaries and comedy programming for the streamer tells us how she decides what will become a Netflix original.


‘Beat Bugs’ & ‘Motown Magic’ creator on his passionate pursuit of music rights

For his Netflix kids show ‘Beat Bugs’, Josh Wakely worked a miracle: he got the rights to use Beatles music in the series. Never afraid of going big, Wakely now has a new animated show on Netflix called ‘Motown Magic,’ which features another set of iconic songs and Smokey Robinson as the music supervisor. Wakely tells us about his years-long pursuit of the rights to some of the world’s most famous music.


Thanksgiving leftovers from memorable guests

Sometimes our guests have so much good stuff to say that we can’t fit it all into one show. So let out your belt a notch. This week we’re bringing you delicious leftovers from Ethan Hawke, George Tillman Jr., Kathy Griffin, and Aneesh Chaganty and John Cho. Plus, some early Oscar forecasting.


Doc director Matthew Heineman on his first narrative film, 'A Private War'

In his career as a documentary filmmaker, Matthew Heineman has criss-crossed the country, followed Syrian activists in exile and embedded with vigilantes fighting Mexican drug cartels. His newest film, ‘A Private War’ is an adventure of a different kind--a narrative feature about war correspondent Marie Colvin. He tells us about using techniques he learned doing documentaries to make his first narrative film.


The Document: ‘Free Solo’

This week, while Kim Masters is out of town, we’re sharing an episode of the KCRW podcast, The Document. Our colleague Matt Holzman talks to married filmmaking couple Jimmy Chin and Chai Vasarhelyi about why and how they made their dizzying new film, ‘Free Solo.’