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The Business is a weekly podcast featuring lively banter about entertainment industry news and in-depth interviews with directors, producers, writers and actors. The show is hosted by award-winning journalist Kim Masters of The Hollywood Reporter.

The Business is a weekly podcast featuring lively banter about entertainment industry news and in-depth interviews with directors, producers, writers and actors. The show is hosted by award-winning journalist Kim Masters of The Hollywood Reporter.
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The Business is a weekly podcast featuring lively banter about entertainment industry news and in-depth interviews with directors, producers, writers and actors. The show is hosted by award-winning journalist Kim Masters of The Hollywood Reporter.






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Revisiting Bing Liu on his film, ‘Minding the Gap,’ now a Peabody winner

Growing up in Rockford, Illinois, Bing Liu was obsessed with making skateboarding videos with his friends. Over the course of more than a decade, one of those mini-movies morphed into a feature-length documentary, ‘Minding the Gap.’ This week, as the film is being honored with a Peabody award, we’re revisiting Matt Holzman’s conversation with Liu.


Showrunners on TV staffing season without agents

It’s TV staffing season: when writers look for jobs. But this year, writers have fired their agents in their battle over packaging fees. Still, showrunners Mike Royce and Valentina Garza say the seats in the writers rooms will be filled. They tell us about building a writing staff without agents, and Royce gives us an update on 'One Day at a Time.'


Dan Taberski on his new podcast ‘Running from COPS’

As a follow-up to his podcasts about exercise guru Richard Simmons and then Y2K, Dan Taberski set out to investigate the darker aspects of the long-running show ‘Cops.’ Taberski tells us about making ‘Running from COPS,’ the product of an 18-month deep-dive into in the show. Turns out, if you live in a town where it films, ‘Cops’ might come for you whether you’re a bad boy or not.


Sally Wainwright on her new HBO-BBC series ‘Gentleman Jack’

Growing up, Sally Wainwright visited Shibden Hall, a historic house and park in West Yorkshire. But she wasn’t taught much about Anne Lister, who had lived there in the 19th century. Years later, Wainwright learned that Lister was truly ahead of her time: a businesswoman and a gay-marriage pioneer. Wainwright tells us about ‘Gentleman Jack,’ her new HBO-BBC series based on the extraordinary life of Lister.


Ryan O’Connell's new Netflix comedy series is ‘Special’

For years, Ryan O’Connell was in the closet: not because he’s gay, which he is, but because he was ashamed of having cerebral palsy. His cover? He’d been hit by a car--which was true. But eventually, that lie took a toll. O'Connell wrote a book about it, and now, with his Netflix show ‘Special,’ O’Connell is out in a big way. He tells us about the 4-year struggle to find a home for his autobiographical comedy.


Participant Media's Elise Pearlstein on the documentary boom

Elise Pearlstein has dedicated her life to non-fiction film, first as award-winning producer, and since 2013, as SVP of Documentary at Participant Media. Her career in docs wasn’t always a foregone conclusion--she used to keep lists of other jobs she could do--but now says there's no place she'd rather be. She talks to Matt Holzman about an industry in transition and some of Participant's newest projects.


Stephen Falk on 'You're the Worst,' the FXX rom-com with a twist

Stephen Falk thought he had gotten his big break in 2012, when NBC picked up his series ‘Next Caller.’ But after he’d shot just 4 episodes, NBC pulled the plug. He vowed for his next project, he'd write what he wanted. That would be the dark rom-com, ‘You’re the Worst’--it just wrapped its final season on FXX. Falk talks about the road to making ‘You’re the Worst,’ which critics concur is actually the best.


Elizabeth Banks on directing, producing and blazing a trail in the big leagues

Actress, director, producer Elizabeth Banks is a member of a very small club: women who make commercial big-studio movies. After directing ‘Pitch Perfect 2’ and a ‘Charlie’s Angels’ reboot set for release this fall, plus producing the heartfelt Hulu comedy ‘Shrill,’ Banks has even bigger ambitions. She talks about getting bored with acting and moving into producing, directing, and making it in the mainstream.


On set with Sebastian Lelio; Steven Yeun on life after ‘The Walking Dead’

Earlier this year, actor Steven Yeun joined us to talk about his role in the Oscar-shortlisted Korean film, ‘Burning.’ We talked about other topics too, and this week, for the first time, we’re airing that part of the conversation. Yeun tells us about getting his start in the industry and what he’s looking for in future roles. Plus, a visit to the set of Sebastian Lelio’s new film ‘Gloria Bell.’


Revisiting comedian Kathy Griffin, following her film premiere at SXSW

When comedian Kathy Griffin posed for a photo holding what appeared to be the bloody head of Donald Trump, she became a pariah overnight. So she did the only thing she could do: turned her story into an act, and took it around the world. This week, we revisit our conversation with Griffin, whose movie version of her stand-up special just premiered at SXSW.


Battle brewing between the Writers Guild and talent agencies; 'Apollo 11'

A potentially epic confrontation is on the horizon, pitting the Writers Guild against the talent agencies. And, after Todd Douglas Miller made a short film about Apollo 17, he figured he was done with outer space. Then he got an email from an employee at the National Archives who had found some old reels labeled: Apollo 11. Miller talks about the never-before-seen footage that led to his new movie, ‘Apollo 11.’


Director Dan Reed on his unflinching documentary ‘Leaving Neverland’

Dan Reed’s documentary ‘Leaving Neverland’ features interviews with two men who say Michael Jackson sexually abused them for years when they were children. Initially conceived as just one hour of television, Reed soon realized it’d have to be longer. He talks about making this unflinching four-hour film and how, despite a lawsuit from the Jackson estate, HBO is standing behind ‘Leaving Neverland.’


Bonus post-Oscars banter

Without a host, the night moved right along but then, it came to best picture. How did it come to be that Julia Roberts was announcing 'Green Book' as the winner when the film had endured scandal after scandal? Scott Feinberg explains what makes the ballot for best picture different from all the other categories. And the other takeaway? The Academy is not the same as "film Twitter"--far from it, in this case!


Gloria Calderón Kellett chronicles pilot season, one tweet at a time

With ‘One Day at a Time’ having just dropped its third season on Netflix, showrunner Gloria Calderón Kellett hoped to launch another series this year. Knowing that pilot season is not for the faint of heart, Calderón Kellett decided to share different aspects of the experience via tweets. She gives us a dramatic reading of some of her recent threads. Plus, a bonus Oscars banter!


Oscar-nominated cinematographer Caleb Deschanel looks back on a legendary career

And he gives us a glimpse of the future too! Deschanel is just back from shooting Disney’s new ‘Lion King’ in London. He’s now Oscar-nominated for his work on ‘Never Look Away.’ That makes his sixth nomination--his previous five were for ‘The Right Stuff,’ ‘The Natural,’ ‘Fly Away Home,’ ‘The Patriot’ and ‘The Passion of the Christ.’ He talks about his long career, plus his penchant for working with animals.


Filmmaker dream hampton on making Lifetime's ‘Surviving R. Kelly’

When ‘Surviving R. Kelly’ showrunner dream hampton was conducting interviews with women who had been in the thrall of the infamous singer-songwriter, she had to choose her words. She tells us about having difficult conversations with survivors while lawyers listened to every question and about other challenges of making the docuseries, plus the recognition and blowback she’s experienced since.


Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck on ‘Never Look Away’

For his new film ‘Never Look Away,’ director Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck spent weeks cozying up to German artist Gerhard Richter, whose remarkable life story inspired the movie. Richter seemed OK with the script, but then trashed the film based just on the trailer. Von Donnersmarck is taking it in stride--Richter may not like ‘Never Look Away,’ but the Academy nominated it for best foreign language film.


Director Lee Chang-dong & actor Steven Yeun on ‘Burning’

When actor Steven Yeun, best known for AMC’s ‘The Walking Dead, was asked on a Korean talk show which filmmaker from that country he’d most like to work with, he knew his answer right away: the author-turned-director Lee Chang-dong. He didn’t expect it’d ever happen, but before he knew it, he was meeting the filmmaker in Korea. Lee Chang-dong and Steven Yeun tell us about their experiences making ‘Burning.’


Nadine Labaki on her Oscar-shortlisted film ‘Capernaum’

Lebanese filmmaker Nadine Labaki cast street children as the stars of ‘Capernaum,’ her gritty tale of 12-year-old Zain, who runs away from home and ultimately sues his parents for condemning him to a life of poverty and desperation. Labaki tells us what drew her to the story and describes the scramble to get her cast members the paperwork they needed to go to Cannes, where ‘Capernaum’ won the Jury Prize.


Spike Lee and John David Washington on ‘BlacKkKlansman’

Could this be the year the Academy finally nominates Spike Lee for Best Director or Best Picture? ‘BlacKkKlansman’ is looking like a contender. The film is based on the true story of black police officer Ron Stallworth, who went undercover with the KKK in the 1970s. Lee and his ‘BlacKkKlansman’ star John David Washington join us to talk about the film and get a little philosophical along the way.